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Jenn aSide
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Posted - 2014.03.13 22:54:00 -
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The real question isn't "why are all these 'bad' (Ie content creating) people in EVE".
IMHO the real question is this: why are all these really squeemish people totally unsuited to sandbox style gaming playing a sandbox game then complaining about it's sandbox nature? And why can't they understand that they are the misfits, not the people playing the game within the rules.
I wonder if Grand Theft Auto has a forum where people constantly post "Why you slap innocent Hoes, you must slap Hoes in real life" threads? |
Jenn aSide
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Posted - 2014.03.13 23:04:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:The real question isn't "why are all these 'bad' (Ie content creating) people in EVE".
IMHO the real question is this: why are all these really squeemish people totally unsuited to sandbox style gaming playing a sandbox game then complaining about it's sandbox nature? And why can't they understand that they are the misfits, not the people playing the game within the rules.
I wonder if Grand Theft Auto has a forum where people constantly post "Why you slap innocent Hoes, you must slap Hoes in real life" threads? O no, I find it perfectly fine that people who wish to do bad things use EVE as their platform to do those bad things. I mean, I understand bad people exist in and out of game. While they may be unenjoyable aspects of the game, the rest of it more than makes up for thousands and thousands of bad apples. EvE is a great game, regardless of bad people trying to **** it up. If anything, it makes a much more vibrant contrast of possibility. Bad people get to do bad things, and I get to judge them as inferior for choosing to do bad things when they could just as easily be making the choice to do good things. EvE is great. Choices are great.
Exactly the post that a bad person would make. The 'bad' part is being judmental of people for how they play a video game coupled with this need to be seen as superior (inferred by your use of the word inferior).
I mean seriously, it's pitiful. Right this moment there are people in the real world proving they are better than you, helping others, sacrificing their time, effort and sometimes even lives for others while you sit at a key board and falsely prop your self up as a 'good person' because other video game players play a video game in a way you don't like.
It's as i said before, the 'bad' people of EVE are most likely the well adjusted adults who can keep a video game in proper context while the self proclaimed 'good' are simply the ones trying to mask how truly aweful they are deep down inside. |
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Posted - 2014.03.13 23:06:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:
I wonder if Grand Theft Auto has a forum where people constantly post "Why you slap innocent Hoes, you must slap Hoes in real life" threads?
The funny thing is, many major news networks seem to believe that statement. Most of the flak that video games get is based on the assumption that people are going to behave the same way in real life as they do playing the video game. It's the same flawed reasoning that gets movies, books, and television shows censored or outright banned.
Well said, and most of the people doing the censoring (or asking for the censoring) do so while having their noses stuck in the air because they are the "good people" protecting everyone else from evil....when in fact their actions make them bad people trying to supress freedom. |
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Posted - 2014.03.14 17:14:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Aih-Li Tahn wrote:done shitting up the thread now? just an unproductive circlejerk that didnt answer the OP question and just make eve look like its full of asses. congrats  u must be proud, trolls Actually the OPs question has been answered quite succinctly, repeatedly. Most of the shitting up of the thread has been from people who think that Eve should be something that it blatantly is not.
Not surprisingly, it's the same character flaws that make people like that crap up a thread that makes the game unenjoyable for the very same people. They never seem to quite figure out that the problem is them, not the game (or the people simply telling them the truth on the forums). |
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Posted - 2014.03.14 18:50:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Personally I feel the recurring theme of people landing in EvE and then railing against it's mechanics is one of a failure in education. If CCP had a stark Tutorial #1 (like so), combined with an 'acceptance', there would be much less knock-on sperging later on... We have all seen this in real life, tell a client up front about 'paper-cuts' and they are seen as paper cuts. Hide them in the short term for them to discover on their own (like crushing TiDi..ahem), and they are perceived as grievous arterial wounds. F
You'd think that would work, but the last decade and a half of my own IRL experiences lead me to believe that it's just not true.
In game as in IRL some things are self evident, rules are posted and easily accessible and any amount of common sense would keep people out of trouble or away from situations where they'd be victimized. Yet time and time and time again I and people like me deal with easily avoidable situations involving people who didn't spend a single second of their time thinking about their situation or the consequences of their choices.
In other words, CCP could introduce mechanaics that would warn people EVERY single time they undocked that they are undocking into a situation where loss can occur, they can make the tuttorial as close to the real EVE experience as possible ect ect and people will STILL complain about the nature of the game and it's mechanics and the in-game policies of CCP (a company made of vikings, by vikings, making a game FOR VIKINGS)
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Posted - 2014.03.14 18:52:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:embrel wrote:Divine Entervention wrote: There's no such thing as bad or good people. bigots are real :D
Bigots are the lightweight example of bad people. Truly bad people do exist and i've dealt with some. None of them had "I play EVE" tattoo'd on them anywhere I could see. |
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